This disclosure relates, in part, to compounds of Formula (1) (including all stereoisomers), N-oxides of such compounds, and salts of such compounds and N-oxides: wherein wherein L, Y1, R1, J, Q1, R7, Y2, R9 and Q2 are as defined in the disclosure. Also disclosed are compositions containing the compounds of Formula (1) and methods for controlling undesired vegetation comprising contacting the undesired vegetation or its environment with an effective amount of a compound or a composition of the invention.
