This disclosure relates, in part, to compounds of Formula 1 (including all stereoisomers), N-oxides of such compounds, and salts of such compounds and N-oxides:wherein L, Y1, R1, J, Q1, R7, Y2, R9 and Q2 are as defined in the disclosure.Also disclosed are compositions containing the compounds of Formula 1 and methods for controlling undesired vegetation comprising contacting the undesired vegetation or its environment with an effective amount of a compound or a composition of the invention.