Disclosed are compounds of Formula 1, including all stereoisomers, N-oxides, and salts thereofwherein W, R1, J, Q1, R7, R8, Y, R9 and are as defined in the disclosure.Also disclosed are compositions containing the compounds of Formula 1 and methods for controlling undesired vegetation comprising contacting the undesired vegetation or its environment with an effective amount of a compound or a composition of the invention.