Disclosed is a method for controlling the growth of undesired vegetation comprising contacting the vegetation or its environment with a herbicidally effective amount of a compound of Formula 1, including all stereoisomers, N-oxides, and salts thereof,wherein A, R1, Q and J are as defined in the disclosure.Also disclosed is a method wherein the compound of Formula 1 (i.e. in a herbicidally effective amount) is comprised in a herbicidal composition further comprising at least one component selected from the group consisting of surfactants, solid diluents and liquid diluents. Also disclosed are compound of Formula 1 (including all stereoisomers), including N-oxides and salts thereof, their use as herbicides wherein A, R1, Q and J are as defined in the disclosure.
